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Postby adamandy » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:06 pm

Hello, can you please advise...

I found Transit 80 SWB SHR 1998-reg 2.5 diesel, 115K miles, with
service history from 71K miles. Owner just changed battery and starter
motor and is putting new alternator.

He wants £1700. What do you think, how much shall I offer him?
I believe £1700 is over the top, may be £1400 or may be less?

Looking forward for your comments, thanks!!!
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Postby Nathan_Cardiff » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:22 pm

I personally think the price is too much, unless it is a minter and is clean and tidy, then 1400 is a good price.

Is this trade or private :?:
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Re: help to make a decision

Postby MarkM » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:25 pm

adamandy wrote:Hello, can you please advise...

I found Transit 80 SWB SHR 1998-reg 2.5 diesel, 115K miles, with
service history from 71K miles. Owner just changed battery and starter
motor and is putting new alternator.

He wants £1700. What do you think, how much shall I offer him?
I believe £1700 is over the top, may be £1400 or may be less?

Looking forward for your comments, thanks!!!


Start at grand, he can only say yes or no, plus have the cash in hand so he can see it, greed always takes over when you start removing notes :lol:
On paper (insurrance) it is worth the money but in real terms £1000- £1500 tops
Be aware that is the lowest weight version so for sure it will also be a 70ps, though you might be very lucky and it is a 85ps as Fords did a free upgrade around that time.
The alternator is a rather expensive part new so that is a possible worry off your mind. As long as you walk away from the deal happy it will be worth it to you as you will always find someone who has a cheaper/better van for sale later on.
Something is only worth a set amount of money if you can find the buyer for the item. I have a few so called 'rare' LP's but to be honest I would never find a buyer for them, but according to the books they are worth £50+ each, I would be lucky to get a £5 each for them in the real world.

Take a look at this http://www.fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13184 the person who posted the link is the owner so get in contact with him, the van was another forum members before him so all the 'what was done' is one here ;) might be a better van for you :?
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Postby adamandy » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:23 pm

Nathan_Cardiff wrote:I personally think the price is too much, unless it is a minter and is clean and tidy, then 1400 is a good price.

Is this trade or private :?:


thanks for the prompt reply ! it is private, guy bought it from dealers 4 years ago (at that time it was supposedly ex-hire van with 71K on the clock, so the guy has all MOTs from 71K till 115K)...

Actually, Parkers guide tells

SWB 2.5D 80 1998/R 115,000 miles

Dealer - £1,560
Private good - £1,230
Private poor - £815

so, it looks like I should offer him not more then £1300....
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Re: help to make a decision

Postby adamandy » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:29 pm

MarkM wrote:
adamandy wrote:Hello, can you please advise...

I found Transit 80 SWB SHR 1998-reg 2.5 diesel, 115K miles, with
service history from 71K miles. Owner just changed battery and starter
motor and is putting new alternator.

He wants £1700. What do you think, how much shall I offer him?
I believe £1700 is over the top, may be £1400 or may be less?

Looking forward for your comments, thanks!!!


Start at grand, he can only say yes or no, plus have the cash in hand so he can see it, greed always takes over when you start removing notes :lol:
On paper (insurrance) it is worth the money but in real terms £1000- £1500 tops
Be aware that is the lowest weight version so for sure it will also be a 70ps, though you might be very lucky and it is a 85ps as Fords did a free upgrade around that time.
The alternator is a rather expensive part new so that is a possible worry off your mind. As long as you walk away from the deal happy it will be worth it to you as you will always find someone who has a cheaper/better van for sale later on.
Something is only worth a set amount of money if you can find the buyer for the item. I have a few so called 'rare' LP's but to be honest I would never find a buyer for them, but according to the books they are worth £50+ each, I would be lucky to get a £5 each for them in the real world.

Take a look at this http://www.fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13184 the person who posted the link is the owner so get in contact with him, the van was another forum members before him so all the 'what was done' is one here ;) might be a better van for you :?






Hi, thanks for so detailed comments!!! I have also PMed to jonnyshag asking how much they want for their van.



What do you think about this one



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Transit-SWB- ... dZViewItem

Ford Transit SWB 80 Van 1996 P reg 12 Months MOT

Ebay item https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362



It is also advertised in local Trade-it for £725, Do you think it would be a good (well, in a sense of trade-of between price and state/condition!) buy?



Much thanks!!!
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Postby chadmat » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:36 pm

That looks like a 70 ps version.

OOPPSS my mistake :oops:
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Re: help to make a decision

Postby gemini » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:15 pm

adamandy wrote:What do you think about this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Transit-SWB- ... dZViewItem
Ford Transit SWB 80 Van 1996 P reg 12 Months MOT
Ebay item https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362




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Postby motorwise » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:17 pm

start at £600 and go from there
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Postby gemini » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:20 pm

motorwise wrote:start at £600 and go from there


:shock: £600 save your money :wink:
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Postby motorwise » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:24 pm

gemini wrote:
motorwise wrote:start at £600 and go from there


:shock: £600 save your money :wink:


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Re: help to make a decision

Postby MarkM » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:40 pm

adamandy wrote:What do you think about this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Transit-SWB- ... dZViewItem
Ford Transit SWB 80 Van 1996 P reg 12 Months MOT
Ebay item https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362

It is also advertised in local Trade-it for £725, Do you think it would be a good (well, in a sense of trade-of between price and state/condition!) buy?

Much thanks!!!




£500 max, every panel has dents and cover ups, drivers seat needs replacing and it has glass in the rear doors (bad security I personally would never buy another van with glass in the back) the drivers side has already blown on the bottom edge, plus the doors are on the skew. Grill needs to be replaced, drivers front wing will need attention shortly, plus the step wing as well.

No mileage given so who knows what it has done...

It is easy to pull a listing apart but then you can always go and look at the van/s plus you haven't given a budget guide for any of us.

My own van a few would have said no to it but I paid peanuts for it, slowly but surely the cosmetic faults are being fixed, plus the van I had (for only 3 weeks) before it, paid for my new van plus the old transit I scrapped it part by part and the new one still hasn't cost me anything...including the purchase price, so in my case I am still in profit even with the parts I have changed :D My last transit I had for 4 years and other than tyres, brakes and an exhaust it cost me nothing in that time.

johnnyshag's I seriously doubt you will go wrong with mainly because the history has been documented on here I have no clue on his asking price but I will think it is within your reach. plus it is the turbo version...ok has glass on the back but that's the trade off, the rest of the toys make up for it.
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Postby captain hook » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:24 pm

I've got s "97 P reg SWB 80 For Sale.....£1000

Passed the MOT last week!

I've known the van from new and, I've been the owner since 2000.

It was/is used as a Mobile radio repair van so, has never been

overloaded or abused....

The ONLY reason for sale is I've bought an Automatic van..
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Re: help to make a decision

Postby adamandy » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:35 pm

MarkM wrote:
adamandy wrote:What do you think about this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Transit-SWB- ... dZViewItem
Ford Transit SWB 80 Van 1996 P reg 12 Months MOT
Ebay item https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362&seller=&toolid=10018&20198322" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260088752362

It is also advertised in local Trade-it for £725, Do you think it would be a good (well, in a sense of trade-of between price and state/condition!) buy?

Much thanks!!!


£500 max, every panel has dents and cover ups, drivers seat needs replacing and it has glass in the rear doors (bad security I personally would never buy another van with glass in the back) the drivers side has already blown on the bottom edge, plus the doors are on the skew. Grill needs to be replaced, drivers front wing will need attention shortly, plus the step wing as well.
No mileage given so who knows what it has done...
It is easy to pull a listing apart but then you can always go and look at the van/s plus you haven't given a budget guide for any of us.
My own van a few would have said no to it but I paid peanuts for it, slowly but surely the cosmetic faults are being fixed, plus the van I had (for only 3 weeks) before it, paid for my new van plus the old transit I scrapped it part by part and the new one still hasn't cost me anything...including the purchase price, so in my case I am still in profit even with the parts I have changed :D My last transit I had for 4 years and other than tyres, brakes and an exhaust it cost me nothing in that time.
johnnyshag's I seriously doubt you will go wrong with mainly because the history has been documented on here I have no clue on his asking price but I will think it is within your reach. plus it is the turbo version...ok has glass on the back but that's the trade off, the rest of the toys make up for it.




Well, the reliability of engine is top priority for me, I do not really care about dents, I can repair them gradually and do DIY respray... Do you think I can just buy this van for £500-£600 and drive it immediately 600 miles return? What top fault in engine I should look for?



Obviously, this orange tuned van is brilliant but asking price is a bit high (but still affordable) for me at the moment (however I am also thinking strongly cause I like this orange van). Buying johnnyshag's van will put some responsibility on me, cause it is too cool to drive recklessly :)
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Re: help to make a decision

Postby MarkM » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:56 pm

adamandy wrote:Well, the reliability of engine is top priority for me, I do not really care about dents, I can repair them gradually and do DIY respray... Do you think I can just buy this van for £500-£600 and drive it immediately 600 miles return? What top fault in engine I should look for?

Obviously, this orange tuned van is brilliant but asking price is a bit high (but still affordable) for me at the moment (however I am also thinking strongly cause I like this orange van). Buying johnnyshag's van will put some responsibility on me, cause it is too cool to drive recklessly :)


How long is a piece of string? The engine could blow as you turn the corner, remember the advert about buying cars privately where it turns into a clown car? I do that sort of mileage every week and all I have done is checked the things you can check and then hope it is all ok as what more can you do?
Buy johnnys you know it makes sense.....(johnny commie please :lol:)
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Postby captain hook » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:15 am

That van has still got the 2-way radio bolted to the step...... :shock:

I don't mind if you don't buy mine but........don't buy that crap!

P.S. I would give 3 months warranty on mine as I have known

it from new!

Johnnyshag's van looks great to me too! :D

I was after it last year but I need, and now have, an Auto...
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