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Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby gsc1ugs » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:53 am

I keep bleeding the clutch because the pedal is terrible, it once dropped to floor no clutch, i used ezay bleed same as power bleed and pedal was fine. After few mile pedal goes rubbish again, is this a slave cylinder problem? I have no leaks and lose no brake/clutch fluid.
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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby dumper » Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:31 am

You need to reverse bleed it if you haven’t the proper tools you can run a pipe from the front brake caliper to the clutch slave cylinder open the bleed nipples and pump fluid from the brakes through the clutch system back into the reservoir.
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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby van_man » Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:47 am

how old is the clutch master cylinder?
They are known for the seals leaking internally, then they don't hold pressure.

They are pretty cheap and quick to replace
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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby gsc1ugs » Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:05 pm

Master cylinder that the big thing or one under pedal?
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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby dumper » Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:19 pm

It’s under the bonnet the one with the fluid tank on is the brake master cylinder there’s a flexible pipe that comes out of the side of the tank into the clutch master cylinder they both use the master cylinder tank for the fluid.
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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby knobby1 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:51 pm

gsc1ugs wrote:Master cylinder that the big thing or one under pedal?


If you have to ask, get someone who knows what thet're doing to do it.

How have you been bleeding it if you don't know where it is..?? Have you been bleeding it through the slave cyl..??

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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby gsc1ugs » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:21 am

Easy bleed goes on reservoir then pressurised pushing fluid through when nipple on gearbox is opened. That should push any air out the system but it doesn’t last long hence the question, is that the cylinder your on about on gearbox?
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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby knobby1 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:32 pm

gsc1ugs wrote:Easy bleed goes on reservoir then pressurised pushing fluid through when nipple on gearbox is opened. That should push any air out the system but it doesn’t last long hence the question, is that the cylinder your on about on gearbox?


Reverse bleed it as our Dumper said. Air doesn't like going down pipes etc..

Slave cyl is on or in the gearbox bell housing depending on whether 5 or 6 speed. Master is on firewall. Both brake and clutch are fed by the same fluid reservoir. Fluid level can be deceiving as there are two chambers inside...can look full from the outside but clutch area can be near empty.

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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby Bhorton5357 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:21 am

Need to get your master cylinder checked. Really common for these to do this when they fail, luckily, they’re quick and easy to change. If it’s bleeding up, the pedal is fine for a while, then it’s causing you problems again, the chance is you’ve got a faulty part somewhere. Changed lots of master cylinders on transits. If you’ve got a 5 speed MT75, the slave cylinder is a bayonet fit, like a lightbulb, so you can pop it out and check it for leaks literally in seconds.
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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby knobby1 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:36 am

Bhorton5357 wrote:Need to get your master cylinder checked. Really common for these to do this when they fail, luckily, they’re quick and easy to change. If it’s bleeding up, the pedal is fine for a while, then it’s causing you problems again, the chance is you’ve got a faulty part somewhere. Changed lots of master cylinders on transits. If you’ve got a 5 speed MT75, the slave cylinder is a bayonet fit, like a lightbulb, so you can pop it out and check it for leaks literally in seconds.


Slave is only easy to get at if he has the MT-75, not so easy if Mt-82...he hasn't told us what he has.

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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby gsc1ugs » Sun Apr 20, 2025 8:23 am

Mines 6 speed is this it
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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby knobby1 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:21 pm

gsc1ugs wrote:Mines 6 speed is this it


No, that's just the bleed "adaptor"...it plugs into the slave cylinder. Gearbox out job to get at the slave cyl on the 6 speed.

Adaptor is 7C560 here:

Slave or CSC is 7A564 here:

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... NCsxMzM%3D

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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby gsc1ugs » Mon Apr 21, 2025 7:55 am

Ffs - i could be taking gearbox out for nothing, how i get a definitive prognosis ?
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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby knobby1 » Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:11 pm

gsc1ugs wrote:Ffs - i could be taking gearbox out for nothing, how i get a definitive prognosis ?


If you replace the master cyl, (cheap and easy), and it still does it....must be the slave, there's nothing else in the hydraulic system. They don't last forever.

When was the clutch & flywheel last replaced..??

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Re: Cant bleed air out clutch

Postby gsc1ugs » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:05 am

I haven’t changed it
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