Turbo (2.0 Ecoblue)

[mompracen_bs]

Hi,
like many others, I always thought that the turbo was the same on all versions, or at least with minimal updates, but a Facebook post suggests that the size of the snails has changed over the years.
IA suggests this, but I don't trust it too much. Does anyone have direct experience of replacement and dismantling?

Garrett
838417-0001 Early version, typically for 105 HP engines
838417-5001S Updated version of -0001
838417-0002 For 130 HP engines
838417-5002S Updated version of -0002
838417-0003 Widely used intermediate version
838417-5003S Updated version of -0003
838417-9003S Possibly aftermarket or special OEM variant
838417-0006 High-performance version for 170 HP engines
838417-5006S Latest version, optimized for performance and compatibility

[metalworker0]

what about the guy who posted the list in facebook, shouldn't he know

all the best.maerk

[mompracen_bs]

The post is more generic, it indicates that the turbine has been replaced with the one with the final letter E, and that the A/R ratio of the hot side is different
According to him, the engine with the new *E turbine has improved at low revs, without having reductions at high revs.

Since I couldn't find any information on the web about the different turbine models used on the 2.0 Ecoblue, I tried to ask AI (Copilot)

[mompracen_bs]

Original post

[metalworker0]

At the moment i only use the Ai to explain something in a better way than i can.

save me typing a lot out and correcting my spelling etc .

.. it's often wrong, i think it just looks for instances of the phrases or explanations being repeated 10's of times .. and if it cant find those tens of times it just makes things up.
for instance i asked if the 2 litre ecoblue had swirl flaps inside the manifold .. it made up things and said it had them.... so you cant really trust it.

it probably monitoring this post now, now ive said its wrong it may change its attitude. and say it does not know next time i ask ,.


Think you are on your own with this one

try one of the tune up channels on ebay - this one does a lot with ford diesels .. he goes the whole hog though .,.he would know
https://www.youtube.com/@ignitionadvantages6592/videos

all the best.mark

[mompracen_bs]

At the moment i only use the Ai to explain something in a better way than i can.

save me typing a lot out and correcting my spelling etc .

.. it's often wrong, i think it just looks for instances of the phrases or explanations being repeated 10's of times .. and if it cant find those tens of times it just makes things up.
for instance i asked if the 2 litre ecoblue had swirl flaps inside the manifold .. it made up things and said it had them.... so you cant really trust it.

it probably monitoring this post now, now ive said its wrong it may change its attitude. and say it does not know next time i ask ,.


Think you are on your own with this one

try one of the tune up channels on ebay - this one does a lot with ford diesels .. he goes the whole hog though .,.he would know
https://www.youtube.com/@ignitionadvantages6592/videos

all the best.mark

However, it seems that there are several alternatives, especially on TransitVII 2.0 EcoBlue

Custom 2.0 EcoBlue 2016>2023
GK2Q-6K682-BA/BB/BC/BD
cold - A/R 0.41
hot - A/R 0.85

Custom 2.0 EcoBlue 2016>2023
GK2Q-6K682-BE
cold - A/R 0.41
hot - A/R 0.63 ???

Transit VII 2.0 EcoBlue
FK2Q-6K682-BA/BB
cold - A/R 0.39
hot - A/R 0.65
KK3Q-6K682-BA/BB
cold - A/R 0.41
hot - A/R 0.65

[metalworker0]

So in other words , you have to buy it from ford with your VIN number to be guaranteed that you'll get the right one .. as ebay sellers don't know one from the other, unless you buy from ford official dealer on ebay .

I can see a lot of vans will be knocking about with the wrong turbo in them in future , so buying a used custom or mk8 with lets say over 150,000 is going to be a lottery, you may get one that's impossible to sort out unless you know information about what turbo its supposed to have.. even ford mechs will struggle to make the diagnoses of wrong turbo fitted.
mess


all the best.mark

[mompracen_bs]

At the moment i only use the Ai to explain something in a better way than i can.

save me typing a lot out and correcting my spelling etc .

.. it's often wrong, i think it just looks for instances of the phrases or explanations being repeated 10's of times .. and if it cant find those tens of times it just makes things up.
for instance i asked if the 2 litre ecoblue had swirl flaps inside the manifold .. it made up things and said it had them.... so you cant really trust it.

it probably monitoring this post now, now ive said its wrong it may change its attitude. and say it does not know next time i ask ,.


Think you are on your own with this one

try one of the tune up channels on ebay - this one does a lot with ford diesels .. he goes the whole hog though .,.he would know
https://www.youtube.com/@ignitionadvantages6592/videos

all the best.mark

However, it seems that there are several alternatives, especially on TransitVII 2.0 EcoBlue

Custom 2.0 EcoBlue 2016>2023
GK2Q-6K682-BA/BB/BC/BD
cold - A/R 0.41
hot - A/R 0.85

Custom 2.0 EcoBlue 2016>2023
GK2Q-6K682-BE
cold - A/R 0.41
hot - A/R 0.63 ???

Transit VII 2.0 EcoBlue
FK2Q-6K682-BA/BB
cold - A/R 0.39
hot - A/R 0.65
KK3Q-6K682-BA/BB
cold - A/R 0.41
hot - A/R 0.65

Transit VII 2.0 EcoBlue + Custom 2.0 EcoBlue (320 restyling)*
KK2Q-6K682-BA
cold - A/R 0.39
hot - A/R 0.65
*secure identification of "LOAD" from VIN