Solonoid

[Turbo Tim]

Does anyone know what ford part number 1355272 do on injection pump, was done on ford recall. Regards Tim

[coconut]

I think its the timing solenoid, but it was a recall for the 90ps transit, not a connect (although it does fit the tddi connect)

[Turbo Tim]

Have traced back to the repair, it was done April 05 under waranty about a month before I bought it, symptoms were lack of power , and noisey. if this was at fault would it put my timing out of range.Regards Tim

[coconut]

Only the advance/retard timing, NOT the static timing of the pump.

You can check the solenoid by measuring the resistance of it, it should be between 9.1 -9.8 ohms (its the 2 black wires that run from the bottom of the pump to the top control module, not the wire that go to the solenoid between the fuel pipes)

[Turbo Tim]

cheers , will get onto that tomorrow, pump has never been of in its history so static should be ok, reagrds Tim

[Turbo Tim]

Have checked solonoids on injection pump, all working,turbo sucking so hard it is pulling filter blocked guage down even with a brand new filter, how could timing be out when never been apart, last week it went quite well sounded right, back to it 's old self not sounding right, gutless, any won got any ideas, regards Tim

[frogsuk]

May be this will help?
PINPOINT TEST C: POOR ENGINE PERFORMANCE
CHECK THE BOOST PRESSURE
Note:
The boost pressure is factory set and must not be adjusted.

1 Using the tool, connect the boost pressure gauge between the wastegate control actuator and the turbocharger.
2 Start and run the engine until the cooling fan has operated.
3 Raise the engine speed to 3000 rpm and observe the reading.
Is the boost pressure 0.5 bar?
Yes
GO to Fuel Charging and Controls for further diagnostics. I have further diagnostics if this is the case and will list as required
No
Sorry but you need to get yourself another turbocharger.
TEST the system for normal operation.

[Turbo Tim]

Done all of that,no load only .25 bar, going along the road plenty,regards Tim

[frogsuk]

From the Ford TIS again.
Which one of the Symptom Chart Condition listed below would you chose to best discribe your problem? Then I'll list it if you want.

I'm only trying to help

CAUTION:
Diesel fuel injection equipment is manufactured to very precise tolerances and fine clearances. It is therefore essential that absolute cleanliness is observed when working with these components. Always fit blanking plugs to any open orifices or lines.

Note:
As well as carrying out its normal function the glow plug indicator also acts as an engine check lamp which will flash continuously when a hard diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is detected by the powertrain control module (PCM). Soft DTCs are also stored by the PCM but will only be known if the system is checked for DTCs using WDS.

Note:
If a DTC is detected, all DTCs must be cleared after the concern is repaired. Failure to clear all DTCs may cause driveability concerns.

Note:
If the fuel level in the fuel tank drops below approximately four litres, rough running will occur. This is to signal to the driver that the vehicle requires refuelling in order to prevent the fuel system from running dry.

1. Verify the customer concern.

2. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical or electrical damage.


Visual Inspection Chart
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³ Mechanical ³ Electrical ³
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³ Fuel leak(s) ³ Fuse(s) ³
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³ Fuel filter ³ Relay(s) ³
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³ Air cleaner element ³ Wiring harness ³
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³ Vacuum line(s)/vacuum ³ Electrical connector(s) ³
³ connections ³ ³
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³ Hose(s)/hose connections ³ Passive anti-theft system ³
³ ³ (PATS) LED operation ³
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³ Tube(s)/tube connections ³ Sensor(s) ³
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³ Contaminated fuel ³ Glow plug indicator ³
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³ Fuel supply line(s) ³ Powertrain control module ³
³ ³ (PCM) ³
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³ Fuel return line(s) ³ ³
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³ High-pressure fuel supply ³ ³
³ line(s) ³ ³
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³ Fuel injectors ³ ³
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³ Fuel injection supply ³ ³
³ manifold ³ ³
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³ Fuel pump ³ ³
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3. If an obvious cause for an observed or reported concern is found, correct the cause (if possible) before proceeding to the next step.

4. If the cause is not visually evident, verify the symptom and refer to WDS to retrieve the diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs).

5. If no DTCs related to the concern are retrieved, proceed to the Symptom Chart below to continue diagnostics.


Symptom Chart


Condition(s):

o Engine does not crank and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Engine does not crank

o Engine cranks but does not start and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Engine cranks but does not start

o Poor starting and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Poor starting

o Engine starts but immediately stops and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Engine starts but immediately stops

o Poor idling and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Poor idling

o Engine stumbling and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Engine stumbling

o Engine lacks power and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Engine lacks power

o Black smoke at idle and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Black smoke at idle

o Excessive black smoke during acceleration and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Excessive black smoke during acceleration

o Black smoke at cruising speeds and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Black smoke at cruising speeds

o Blue smoke and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Blue smoke

o White smoke and glow plug indicator is flashing

o White smoke

o Engine misfire and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Engine misfire

o Engine knock at idle and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Engine knock at idle

o Engine knock during acceleration and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Engine knock during acceleration

o Excessive fuel consumption and glow plug indicator is flashing

o Excessive fuel consumption

o Engine cuts out during hard acceleration

[Turbo Tim]

Thank you for trying to help, symptoms are:Lack of power,noisey,thursty,no torque,air filter warning guage saying restriction but all air ways are clear and new air filter, code on pump comes up with timing out of range,Regards Tim

[coconut]

Did you measure the resistance of the solenoid?

What is the fault codes?

[Turbo Tim]

don't know what the code is ,have measured the resistance on solonoid 9.1. even spent some time today ond took it out to make sure it works, seems ok, all they said was that it kept comming up as timing out of range and would have to check static timing about 4.5 hours, can't see how that could be wrong, have also looked on the focus forum , loads of people have got this sort of problem but no one knows why, these vans aren't going to be worth jack soon if they have these sort of problems. Regards Tim

[frogsuk]

You can have a go at reading the fault code yourself by using the self-diagnostics mode. It's not really a comprehensive diagnostics tool but you should be able to get the DTC Troubleshooting Codes.

With the ignition off, press and hold the trip reset button on the cluster and then turn the ignition to II or III.

Step 1
Insert Key (do not turn it)
Step 2
Press and hold the Trip-Meter Reset Button.
Step 3
While holding the reset button, start your car and continue holding the button.
Step 4
Within 10 seconds, the display should change to "test" (written in the LCD display) and the needles will go wild. Release the Button.
Step 5
Pressing the button will now cycle through some 15 different modes or more.
Breakdown of some of the functions:
1 Press - Shows a Gauge Sweep
2 Presses - Shows all 8's on the LCD (LCD TEST)
3 Presses - Illuminates all the bulbs on the dash
6 Presses - Shows DTC Troubleshooting Codes [b]This is the one. MAKE A NOTE OF ANY CODES THAT DISPLAY. If there are a few, they will scroll through, untill you get to 0 for the DIGITAL SPEEDOMETER - MPH as below. If there is none it will say n0nE (from memory but not sure)
7 Presses - DIGITAL SPEEDOMETER - MPH
8 Presses - DIGITAL SPEEDOMETER - KPH
10 Presses - DIGITAL TACHOMETER
11.Fuel volume
12. Engine coolant temperature
13. Battery voltage
14. ABS fail
15. Electronic brake distribution (EBD) failure
16. Illumination.
17. Crank Sense

[Nighthawk]

4.5 hours to check the static timing, they are having a laugh

remove the rocker cover
fit the crank timing pin through the hole in the side of the block, check the slot on the end of the cam is in the right place.

If thats right, the pump must be in the right place if it's never been off.

In theory it could slip in the vernier gear, but unless something has happened to the timing chain I doubt it.

That self diagnostic tip on the dash wont read out engine codes, only dash codes.

i'm more worried about the filter minder being sucked down with a new filter in place, have you tried to run the vehicle from a remote low pressure feed? (gallon can)

A restriction in fuel delivery will also bring the timing fault codes.

[Turbo Tim]

Yeah i'm a bit worried about the minder, as have seen dirty filters not as restricted, haven't as yet tried to use a can of deisel, just keep running out of time before i have to go to work again, i thought 4.5hrs was a bit steep as i stripped out the timing solonoid and tested in less, thought i had cracked it last week by changing iat by the air filter on induction pipe, went ok , but now slow again,will get myself a timing kit and check.Regards Tim