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Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby AndyG » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:15 am

One very 8) 8) 8) job there :!:
Well done :!:


How long (just roughly) would you say this has taken :?:


Does the ECU need to be told you have air con. now :?: (so that it can raise the idle speed a tadge when running)
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby 100 T280 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:14 pm

Andyg wrote:One very 8) 8) 8) job there :!:
Well done :!:


Cheers Andy!

Andyg wrote:How long (just roughly) would you say this has taken :?:


3 weekends, including the trip to Warrington to remove the bits.

Andyg wrote:Does the ECU need to be told you have air con. now :?: (so that it can raise the idle speed a tadge when running)


Got to get it all vacuumed out, re-gassed and checked for leaking, will maybe have to replace all the "o" rings first :?
If and when it works, I'll see how it goes, 'cause that'll be expensive all that ECU stuff :(
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby 100 T280 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:52 pm

Got the belt and tensioners done this morning....never again! :evil: What a crap job, remove alternator and wedge out of the way (it will not come out! [got the 105A one too 8) ]) Remove the two alternator mounts, one steel and one alloy, and replace with the donor bits, the top alloy one has one of the idlers and the tensioner assembly, the bottom steel mount has the hole for the tensioner spring. The other idler sits on a stud, (already there :!: ) totally out of sight under the engine mount. All the pics I took are crap, due to the very limited space at the front of the engine.

Getting the belt on was a total tw*t too, tensioner pulley needs to be removed, the one the TIS says cannot be removed in situ. :? , belt fitted, tensioner replaced and compressed using makeshift tool on the right:-

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...belt slipped over pulleys, and tensioner released to tension belt.

Makeshift tool for undoing / replacing the tensioner is the ground down 8mm allen key on the left.

Engine running and everything ok........so far.

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Got to get it gassed up and tested for leaks now....... :|
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby rover » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:20 pm

Fantastic job Chris :!: Very impressed mate :D

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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby transitgeoff » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:24 pm

yep nice work Chris, hope it all works right now :D
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby 100 T280 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:20 pm

Cheers lads!......and thanks again to everyone for any help and advice given 8)
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby madmark » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:34 am

:wink: mate well done hope it all works ok for you :wink: :wink:
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby 100 T280 » Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:38 pm

Cheers Mark, and thanks for the pic of the label position,
making it look authentic now:- 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby madmark » Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:51 pm

8) 8) well done mate whens the gas up :?: :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby 100 T280 » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:04 pm

Went to have it gassed this afternoon, 990 grams of R134a and 30 ml refridgerant oil, and icy cold air from the vents 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

...but, there are problems.

There may be a leak from one of the joints (only one so far :shock: :shock: :shock: they couldn't put in any UV dye, someone had used it all up :roll: ), and the fan(s) do not start when the A/C is switched on, and after a short period of working, the compressor clutch is cutting in, and almost straight back out again :evil: ( :roll: )
The chap at the garage said (he wasn't aware of the fact that it wasn't factory fitted) that the low pressure switch (new, attached to the receiver / drier) was working, and that as soon as the compressor kicks in, the high pressure switch cuts it straight out, due to the obvious high pressure caused by lack of cooling air to the condensor.

So, after all that, it seems like the PCM will have to be programmed to accept the A/C, or there is a fault with the fans.

The A/C seems to work at 60 MPH on the motorway, switched it off after a while due to freezing to death 8)
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby madmark » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:17 pm

8) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i think mine isnt as cold maybe get it regassed at somepoint! :roll: :roll:
its a great shame my local dealer dont do it only the car place! :roll: :roll:
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby 100 T280 » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:29 pm

Nighthawk wrote:Without the fan running on the radiator pack, there will be no air flow across the condenser at idle and low speed.......so very little in the way of A/C operation at best....at worst the pressures within the system will be too great and the high pressure switch will cut the compressor clutch out.


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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby transitgeoff » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:34 pm

hmm what will you do now then ?? can you just have your pcm re-flashed or is it a new/another pcm needed :?
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Re: Mk6 Air Con. retro-fitting.

Postby 100 T280 » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:34 pm

madmark wrote:8) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i think mine isnt as cold maybe get it regassed at somepoint! :roll: :roll:
its a great shame my local dealer dont do it only the car place! :roll: :roll:


A/C systems apparently lose up to 10% of the gas per year :!: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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