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Postby nick-barnes07 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:22 pm

hey all, my heaters on my van are not blowing hot air , they only blow cold air !!! i thought it was due to the egr cooler being gone but i have just had that chnaged and it is still the same!! anyone know what it could be, the van seems perfectly normal, no water inside from heater matrix, no over heating or anything
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Re: heaters not blowing hot air, cold air only

Postby winterheating » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:27 pm

you'll have to check theres actually water circulating through the matrix first. and check water level.(look inside bottle )

under bonnet you cant miss 2 pipes ghoing through to heater matrix. if there both hot then the problems inside, and not water circulation.
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Re: heaters not blowing hot air, cold air only

Postby bdp210 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:42 pm

as the head gone at all? or blockage in pipes, or air lock?
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Postby nick-barnes07 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:00 pm

bdp210 wrote:as the head gone at all? or blockage in pipes, or air lock?


no the head hasnt gone, no blockages, and no air locks as the van would start overheating if there was air locks blockages in pipes etc etc, van is all okay, i will check the circulation pipes tommorw , i have done about 400 miles in it without a problem so wouldn't of thought the circulation would of been an issue!!! it also smokes some times when on boost!!! the egr valve looks like a brand new one as well so isnt egr related!!! im thinking this could be to do with it as well
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Postby winterheating » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:06 pm

nick-barnes07 wrote:
bdp210 wrote:as the head gone at all? or blockage in pipes, or air lock?


no the head hasnt gone, no blockages, and no air locks as the van would start overheating if there was air locks blockages in pipes etc etc, van is all okay, i will check the circulation pipes tommorw , i have done about 400 miles in it without a problem so wouldn't of thought the circulation would of been an issue!!!


well the pipes are sized so that if the pump does fail, theres a certain amount of circulation by gravity.
flow goes to top of rad outlet at bottom.

all vehicles are like this.#

and you can of course have no water in an engine and it will not show that its overheating as theres no way the heat can get to temp sender.
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Postby nick-barnes07 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:18 pm

winterheating wrote:
nick-barnes07 wrote:
bdp210 wrote:as the head gone at all? or blockage in pipes, or air lock?


no the head hasnt gone, no blockages, and no air locks as the van would start overheating if there was air locks blockages in pipes etc etc, van is all okay, i will check the circulation pipes tommorw , i have done about 400 miles in it without a problem so wouldn't of thought the circulation would of been an issue!!!


well the pipes are sized so that if the pump does fail, theres a certain amount of circulation by gravity.
flow goes to top of rad outlet at bottom.

all vehicles are like this.#

and you can of course have no water in an engine and it will not show that its overheating as theres no way the heat can get to temp sender.


water level is at maximum and has been for last few days since having the egr cooler sorted!!!
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Postby nick-barnes07 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:30 pm

anyone know if it could be a heater control valve , do the transits have heater control valves like other fords?????? one of these i meanhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HEATER-CONTROL-VA ... 3ef8d6f046
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Postby winterheating » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:32 pm

have you checked theres flow through heater yet takes about 2 seconds, not including openining the bonnet.
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Postby nick-barnes07 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:30 pm

got the van running now, the bottom and top radiator pipe is stone cold!!! and the engine is at normal temparature , the pipe under the coolant bottle is hot so there is water going through the pipe coming out of the bottle and either side of the thermostat just not the top and bottom rad pipes, will the rad need flushing???
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Postby bdp210 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:02 pm

sounds like stat problem
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Postby winterheating » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:18 pm

bdp210 wrote:sounds like stat problem


if the main stat was stuck open the engine would prob never get up to working temp, and blowers would be just warm.

sounds like stat and rad are fine, but not circulation.
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Postby nick-barnes07 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:00 pm

bit of a weird one, i think it may be a bit more indepth than i know of, i am going to get it booked into ford's when i get payed and get them to have a look at it,
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Postby 100 T280 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:18 pm

nick-barnes07 wrote:anyone know if it could be a heater control valve , do the transits have heater control valves like other fords?????? one of these i meanhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HEATER-CONTROL-VA ... 3ef8d6f046


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Postby alexgrfc » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:38 pm

change the thermostat it takes 10 mins ,worth a try
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Postby winterheating » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:56 pm

nick-barnes07 wrote:bit of a weird one, i think it may be a bit more indepth than i know of, i am going to get it booked into ford's when i get payed and get them to have a look at it,


whys it weird one, the stat and rad are working correctly, :?:

if both top and bottom were same temp it would show water pump is working but stat fully open, its not that.

if it over heated and blowers work and rad is cold, it would show main stat stuck shut, its not that

if it didnt over heat, flow through rad was ok, dont have circulation of water through blowers, it means............................ stat is working ok and cooling is working by gravity through rad but water pump isnt working fully
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