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Postby Gunslinger » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:26 am

thanks for the info on the headlights.

YEah cutting and shutting (as its called) is always a dificult choice where to cut :P

i think your original idea was probably the way to go, keep the entire cab from your new 82 vehicle, or was it not a chassis cab but a minibus ?

if it is a chassis cab, then i would start by cutting the new one off behind the cab, then proceed to remove about 12 inches of chassis from underneath (but not going as far as the back front spring hanger, don't want that headache) then take your recovery and remove the cab expossing the chassis just under cab at the back, thus allowing you to cut the chassis off at the same point as the other.

Then to rejoin i would sleeve the inside of the chassis, but before welding it all together, i would weld a solid metal bar onto the underside of the original chassis and leave it extending past the joint, this will give you a very handy guide and strengthener later.

Once you have rejoined it and welded it all up, i would then look to a mk4 transit (tipper or flat bed) and look at that same area, and you will see that the chassis is "double" height, and higher than yours, so much so that it is visible from inside the cab, i would take that part from a mk4 and add it onto yours (about 24 inches or so) This way you will have braced the joint top and bottom and it should never give you any problems :) the only thing i would be concerned about is the number of pieces of metal together in the one place, as this usually encourages rust, but a good coat of waxoyl or expanding foam should take care of this.

You could also, take this opportunity to either extend the chassis and flat bed or extend the chassis and cab :D
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Postby Gunslinger » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:38 am

Forgot to ask .... you miging that or tig welding it ?

either way its dam neat
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Postby fredrik » Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:31 pm

My -82 vehicle is a minibus with windows in the rear so I can't use the whole cabine.
Therefor I plan to cut it of in the middle of the door openings so that I keep the back wall and the back part of the floor from the -79 truck, then I cut the -82 bus at the same place ( straight over the roof and all) and place them together.

I'm still looking to buy a -82 to -85 160 chassi with dual rear wheels so i can cut the frame just behind the cabin and use my renovated frame on a better front end with a non rusted cabin.
It would be so much less work to join the to of them just behind the cabin than straight through.
Too bad it's almost impossible to find one that isn't totally gone in the bodywork.

I use a MIG ( or MAG to be more exact), Mig is used for stainless steels.
I would really like to have a TIG welder also, it will probably be the next thing I will buy for my workshop, but they're very expensive as I want a AC/DC TIG to be able to weld aluminum to.

TIG is required when you weld roll cages or what it's called?? (Protective cage in racing and rally cars). I have welded a roll cage with MIG to but then it won't be classified for racing..
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Postby MrMPuk » Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:36 pm

MIG = Metal Inert Gas
TIG = Tungstern Inert Gas
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Postby fredrik » Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:49 pm

Exactly and MAG = Metal Active Gas, The protective gas is a active part in the welding process.
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Postby Gunslinger » Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:57 pm

yup mig/mag are the same thing, tig is more tricky to use, but usually gives better results if done correctly, and yes a good one is expensive :(

i see what your saying now about the cab thing because its a minibus you have, yup, no easy quick answer to that one, but i think you'll work it out, theplan you have seems to be a good one and should leave you some of the strengthening points untouched.
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Postby stevew » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:23 pm

Wow! :shock:
I just found this thread and I can hardly belive what I'm seeing. That rear chassis looks better than when it came out the factory!
Keep up the good work.

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Postby fredrik » Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:45 pm

Thank you all for your support on my project.

This weekend it hasn't been much progress with my truck, the weather has been too good.
However I've brought home the transit Van that will be cut into pieces for repair parts on my truck. Thanks to my friend Thomas who helped me with the transport. Here is a few pictures on the van. More detailed pictures will come during the week.


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Postby Gromit » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:45 pm

I would really like to have a TIG welder also, it will probably be the next thing I will buy for my workshop, but they're very expensive as I want a AC/DC TIG to be able to weld aluminum to.


http://fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7017


This might interest you.

Keep up the good work, your doing a brilliant job there.

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Cut, grind, weld, cut, grind, weld........just another day in the life of a Smiley owner.
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Postby fredrik » Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:49 pm

Seems to be about just the kind of TIG welder i've been looking for.
However I don't think it's worth the trouble to buy one from England, the prices ar about the same here in Sweden.
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Postby rover » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:40 pm

Whatever you do dont damage the back door on that bus, its in cracking condition by the looks of it and would fetch good money :D :D

Keep up the good work mate, very interesting reading :D

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Postby fredrik » Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:54 pm

rover wrote:Whatever you do dont damage the back door on that bus, its in cracking condition by the looks of it and would fetch good money :D :D

Keep up the good work mate, very interesting reading :D

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The back door is quite OK, some dents but not a lot of rust. Both doors on the right side are good to but the drivers door is beyond repair.

It's not a very big market for used Transit parts here in Sweden, there are nearly no transits this old left here.
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Postby fredrik » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:13 pm

Time for a little update. I've started to dismantle the -82 bus and decide what parts that I will use from it. The engine will be lifted out of the bus during this week, it will help me to get more space for cutting the parts out.

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Last pictures of the bus in one piece, as you can see it was quite rusted on the footsteps areas around the door, but still very much better than my recovery truck. For each day that passes I get more and more convinced that the cabin of my truck is the worst in the world.

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Here the whole front has been removed, it was in good condition and will be used on my truck.

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Left front fender removed and it is a little rust below the top suspension plate.
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:15 pm

you must work night and day 8) 8) 8) excellent work mate 8) 8) 8)
You only need two tools in life: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the duct tape.
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Postby madvanman » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:46 pm

WOW :shock: that makes some of what i thought were major welding repair jobs i've done look like minor patching. keep up the good work.
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