2.0 euro6 gearing verses 2.2 euro5

[aln101tf]

Hello all,
Reluctantly about to replace my 2013 Tourneo with the more recent model, adblue, wet belts, etc !*?*! Probably about 2020 ish.
My 2.2 had really long gearing (which I changed) and I'm wondering whether the 2.0 euro6 has the same ridiculous gearing, or did Ford fix this?
Searched, but only found one comment that it was pretty long.
thanks, Alan

[metalworker0]

this is what Ford says about the ratios of an ecoblue custom transit .. i don't know your ratios .. but you do .. so .. you'll have to compare

FROM HERE - noting this is 2024 spec.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/ford ... 024_EU.pdf

EcoBlue eight-speed auto
Gear ratio
8th - 0.616
7th - 0.742
6th - 1
5th -1.414
4th- 1.842
3rd - 2.872
2nd -3.146
1st - 4.484
Reverse - -2.882
Final drive 3.650:1

EcoBlue six-speed manual
Gear ratio
6th - 0.683
5th - 0.780
4th - 0.844
3rd - 1.121
2nd - 1.952
1st - 3.727
Reverse -1.423
Final drive - 4.930:1

all the best.mark

[aln101tf]

Thanks for that.
Can't remember my own ratios now. Over sixties syndrome !
I was really looking for someone to post their revs verses speed in top.
Just drove a friends 2.0 auto today, and I only counted six gears. It was at about 1800 revs at 60, which was a nice surprise. At least Ford got that right.
Alan

[aln101tf]

Oh well...
I guess no-one looks at their rev counters these days.

[metalworker0]

110 views says they are too idle to answer


all the best.mark

[Altransit]

110 views says they are too idle to answer

............ or maybe 110 views by people who like reading posts for the information, but don't have the same setup, in order to give a useful answer

My Euro 4 5 speed Mk7 does 26mph per 1000 revs in top gear, but that information is of no use to the OP

[mompracen_bs]

this is what Ford says about the ratios of an ecoblue custom transit .. i don't know your ratios .. but you do .. so .. you'll have to compare

FROM HERE - noting this is 2024 spec.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/ford ... 024_EU.pdf

EcoBlue eight-speed auto
Gear ratio (speed at 1800 RPM)
8th - 0.616 (64 MPH)
7th - 0.742 (53 MPH)
6th - 1 (40 MPH)
5th -1.414 (28 MPH)
4th- 1.842 (21.5 MPH)
3rd - 2.872 (13.8 MPH)
2nd -3.146 (12.6 MPH)
1st - 4.484 (9 MPH)
Reverse - -2.882
Final drive 3.650:1

EcoBlue six-speed manual
Gear ratio (speed at 1800 RPM)
6th - 0.683 (42.94 MPH)
5th - 0.780 (37.6 MPH)
4th - 0.844 (34.75 MPH)
3rd - 1.121 (26.16 MPH)
2nd - 1.952 (15 MPH)
1st - 3.727 (7.9 MPH)
Reverse -1.423
Final drive - 4.930:1

tyre 215/65-16 external diameter 27"

all the best.mark

con i configuratori online è possibile fare dei confronti
https://tremec.com/aftermarket/resource ... alculator/

[aln101tf]

Those manual ratios / speeds don't look right. 43mph at 1800 rpm in 6th ??? How did you calculate those ?

Just had a short spin in a ecoblue custom van last night. It was on 1500 revs at 60 which is pretty similar to my early custom.
It wasn't really interested below 1500 either which also sounds familiar. Damn!

[metalworker0]

who's that answer for ?

all the best.mark

[2tall]

Here's the gearing for Euro6 with different FD options:



And here's the same for Euro5:



And here are the revs @ 100 km/h in 6th gear with 235/65R16 tyres on a 2022 Custom 300:

[mompracen_bs]

Here's the gearing for Euro6 with different FD options:



And here's the same for Euro5:



And here are the revs @ 100 km/h in 6th gear with 235/65R16 tyres on a 2022 Custom 300:

I tried various online calculators and the table shown above.
But they all indicate that to reach 100km/h, the engine should be at about 2100 rpm (not 1800 rpm as shown in the photo).
2022 Custom 300 (Euro 6)
235/65R16 (= outer diameter 28"/711mm)

6th 0.683
final drive 4.19
2100 rpm
=98 km/h/61 mph

Am I doing something wrong?

EDIT
Sorry, I made a mistake!
The following are correct: 3 manual transmission options available for Euro6 engine (2.0 ECOBLUE) + 6th gear + 235/65R16

Final Drive 4.19 → ≈ 1,552 RPM
Final Drive 4.43 → ≈ 1,663 RPM
Final Drive 4.93 → ≈ 1,760 RPM (I believe this is the case shown in the photo)

[2tall]

I tried various online calculators and the table shown above.
But they all indicate that to reach 100km/h, the engine should be at about 2100 rpm (not 1800 rpm as shown in the photo).
2022 Custom 300 (Euro 6)
235/65R16 (= outer diameter 28"/711mm)

6th 0.683
final drive 4.19
2100 rpm
=98 km/h/61 mph

Am I doing something wrong?

You're right, something doesn't add up with the ratios.

The ratios are from BEMM. Tried different calculations and they don't correlate with the actual rpms of my Custom. Oh well

[mompracen_bs]

I tried various online calculators and the table shown above.
But they all indicate that to reach 100km/h, the engine should be at about 2100 rpm (not 1800 rpm as shown in the photo).
2022 Custom 300 (Euro 6)
235/65R16 (= outer diameter 28"/711mm)

6th 0.683
final drive 4.19
2100 rpm
=98 km/h/61 mph

Am I doing something wrong?

You're right, something doesn't add up with the ratios.

The ratios are from BEMM. Tried different calculations and they don't correlate with the actual rpms of my Custom. Oh well

I edited the message, now it's correct, I hope!

P.S.
BEMM magic document!

[mompracen_bs]

Here's the gearing for Euro6 with different FD options:



And here's the same for Euro5:

Is 4th gear shorter than 5th gear?
3th 1.121
4th 0.780
5th 0.844
6th 0.683

[mompracen_bs]

this is what Ford says about the ratios of an ecoblue custom transit .. i don't know your ratios .. but you do .. so .. you'll have to compare

FROM HERE - noting this is 2024 spec.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/ford ... 024_EU.pdf

EcoBlue eight-speed auto
Gear ratio
8th - 0.616
7th - 0.742
6th - 1
5th -1.414
4th- 1.842
3rd - 2.872
2nd -3.146
1st - 4.484
Reverse - -2.882
Final drive 3.650:1

EcoBlue six-speed manual
Gear ratio
6th - 0.683
5th - 0.780
4th - 0.844
3rd - 1.121
2nd - 1.952
1st - 3.727
Reverse -1.423
Final drive - 4.930:1

all the best.mark

This Ford document (seems to) confirm that the my2024 Custom has the same gear spacing, but with final drive in a single 4.93 configuration (only used in over310 versions in the past)