LUCAS EPIC PUMP MANUAL ?

[AndyG]

This pump has had nothing but bad press on this forum and even though mine's been great up to now, it's probably only a matter of time before it gives trouble.
I thought it would be nice to know exactly what makes this pump tick

What adjustments are available
What actually goes wrong
Why it costs an absolute fortune to put right
Why has mine always been noisy and reliable
Does anybody know if a manual is available (book or CD not pump)

So what if I'm opening up a can of worms (let 'em out )

[crazyscoot]

when mine went tits up, i scoured the net for the electronic parts, in a bid to get it working again without replacing the whole thing, did i find any info? did i heck! That was about 3 years ago, it may be different now though.?

[AndyG]

So yours went wrong electronically not mechanically

What were your symptoms

[crazyscoot]

Used to go into limp home mode when you hit 60mph. Used to have to pull over, kill the engine, wait about 3 mins start her up and off you go again. Had a scary moment on the motorway in a contraflow, the limp home cut in and i couldn't get out of the outside lane because of inside lane traffic! Glad ive done the conversion
To be honest, i couldn't say to you, yes it was electronic. But my gut feeling was that it was and so i searched for the electronics because i thought it must be the cheapest way of getting it back on the road.

[AndyG]

Probably just a dry joint

Nothing a bit of high temperature solder couldn't sort out

[AndyG]

Used to go into limp home mode when you hit 60mph. Used to have to pull over, kill the engine, wait about 3 mins start her up and off you go again. Had a scary moment on the motorway in a contraflow, the limp home cut in and i couldn't get out of the outside lane because of inside lane traffic! Glad ive done the conversion
To be honest, i couldn't say to you, yes it was electronic. But my gut feeling was that it was and so i searched for the electronics because i thought it must be the cheapest way of getting it back on the road.

Did you not suspect a sensor
What's the maximum speed in limp home mode?
Can you use all the gears still

[100ps_drw_hicube]

Used to go into limp home mode when you hit 60mph. Used to have to pull over, kill the engine, wait about 3 mins start her up and off you go again. Had a scary moment on the motorway in a contraflow, the limp home cut in and i couldn't get out of the outside lane because of inside lane traffic! Glad ive done the conversion
To be honest, i couldn't say to you, yes it was electronic. But my gut feeling was that it was and so i searched for the electronics because i thought it must be the cheapest way of getting it back on the road.

Did you not suspect a sensor
What's the maximum speed in limp home mode?
Can you use all the gears still

i managed 55mph in los mode 5th gear too its usually a actuator inside the pump that goes wrong im sure if you could get the bit you might be able to do it yourself

[AndyG]

Used to go into limp home mode when you hit 60mph. Used to have to pull over, kill the engine, wait about 3 mins start her up and off you go again. Had a scary moment on the motorway in a contraflow, the limp home cut in and i couldn't get out of the outside lane because of inside lane traffic! Glad ive done the conversion
To be honest, i couldn't say to you, yes it was electronic. But my gut feeling was that it was and so i searched for the electronics because i thought it must be the cheapest way of getting it back on the road.

Did you not suspect a sensor
What's the maximum speed in limp home mode?
Can you use all the gears still

i managed 55mph in los mode 5th gear too its usually a actuator inside the pump that goes wrong im sure if you could get the bit you might be able to do it yourself

This is exactly what I was thinking We could fix them ourselves Why not
Save a fortune on converting to manual pumps. And besides manual pumps no good on my van
Tune them up a bit and every body will putting these back into their vans

[100ps_drw_hicube]

that and your epic is different to that for a manual engine so your kind of restricted in all ways i wonder if lucas would sell the required parts???

[AndyG]

that and your epic is different to that for a manual engine so your kind of restricted in all ways i wonder if lucas would sell the required parts???

He better do Or I'll change his name Nah, If they don't I'll find someone that they will

[100ps_drw_hicube]

other than lucas i cant think of anywhere that would sell the parts

[AndyG]

other than lucas i cant think of anywhere that would sell the parts

Delphi Group

[AndyG]

Haven't you still got an old pump

[tim]

I have never seen a manual for the epic pump,i even tried my mate who worked in the lucas factory in Gillingham in kent.There is no adjustment everything has to be done on a computer which is for the epic pump thats why not every diesel shop can do them,it seems the equipment needed costs a lot of dosh so a lot of dosh prices.Anything can go in them,i got my one done[£600] it went in to limp mode and 3 weeks later something else went and when i took it back to the diesel man,tough sh*t mate its an epic another £400 quid please.my mate in lucas recons the lifespan is between 1mile to 250.000 miles .After 4 pumps none with the same problem i changed to the bosch manual pump[more power,no hassle,more mgh

[100ps_drw_hicube]

yes been to a derv pump specialist in portslade who wants £550 to put it right they say it's a specialist job that only experienced technicians can carry out and they wont touch it if the paint seal has been broken which mine has